Tropical Tower Wars revive

Hi

Just for interest sake I opened this thread to check how many people would play TTW again if DotA 2 gets custom maps or even if this custom map could become a standalone how many of the community will switch over to this?

I am asking this only as staff on the website and as a beta tester for the map I have spoken to H3ka about it quickly but it's still not announced that this will be made.


Please just tell me what you guys think because I personally miss playing this and he WC3 community sucks now

Thanks
FlaMe

I did not quite understand what you wanted to expose,
because of this I have a question: Have you considered if TTW will be included in Dota 2?
WC3 is a very old play, many players consider it, but very few want to toy on TTW inclusion in another game.
for me there is no point where it will be included TTW, I know I will still have the same meaning, but I will feel happy for graphics and other new models.

Most of the WC3 community switched to DotA 2 now because they played DotA alot, the custom maps were mostly there to fool around when bored.

I want to play this again but the "new" community doesn't know it and it will take some time to get them on track but they won't be any challenge for the older TTW players.

Myself and some friends used to play TTW a lot and even played Tournaments on our local WC3 server back in the day, but not many people are still interested in it any more because of graphics and so many people hacking on any maps lately.

TTW is a very fun map and can actually keep you busy without boring you all the time it's something to enjoy when you're in the mood for some thinking.


Personally myself and some friends will play this IF it went on

You have to understand, that hack is TTW bug, here are guilty only administrators, I do not blame that because their are much better versions of TTW. they have to deal with more than fixing bugs. currently do not have problems with TTW games, often playing games with strong players worthy. Garena community, the group opened a bot http://w3game.ru/ TTW, working non-stop and TTW is alive.
el3geeb expect to tell us about his plan TTW

Overall the internet in RSA is really bad so we can't just play on Garena as we want to as we get packet loss some days up to 50% and pings of 250 can become very bad in TTW when you are trying to juggle

fail, big fail!

Sup Flameberg :3 Tis, I, Hodge

I'm pretty sure that H3ka will do his best to get TTW into the custom Dota 2 maps. He and I still love the hell out of TTW and are (were) staff for a reason .

A while back I tried to create a SC2 TTW at some point (holy shit that editor >_< ) and I know H3ka has plans for a stand alone TTW and may even be working on it.

I can't say much for leafy, seeing as I've never met him, but I'm pretty sure he has plans for TTW too, and is most probably working alongside H3ka to make the stand alone and will probably work on the Dota 2 version as well.

As to D3z, I'm not sure, man :/I haven't seen him around on here for a damn long time, but H3ka did say something about him and a Facebook TTW or something of that nature?

Hey guys

I was considering a Starcraft 2 version of TTW, but I simply do not have the time to commit to it. I don't know what sort of system Valve plan on implementing for custom maps or content editors, but my limited experience with Source is a nightmare of bugs. The SC2 engine itself eliminates most of the mechanics bugs in TTW already, so it would be a pretty smooth transition (in theory). If one of the staff are making a new version (on whichever platform), I would not be able to contribute much to the coding, but I would love to be in charge of (or involved in) designing new content and controlling the balance aspect (which I feel is my specialty).

H3ka and D3z have both mentioned other platforms and standalone versions, but I can't comment on progress. Somebody I met via facebook was working on a browser based TTW game (to avoid confusion, this was not mentioned to me as a Facebook game, it was just spoken about ON Facebook, though perhaps D3z and H3ka have made other plans)

If I am to be brutally honest, I think TTW on SC2 is a dead end. There are too few people that play SC2 (compared to alternatives), it is not free-to-play and generally I think it's too much work for too little output.

I am very excited about a Dota2 custom map editor. Depending on how flexible it is, I'd put in as much effort as I can to bring it to life. I'd be learning the editor from scratch, so you can join if you want Leafy . D3z may also want to, depending how his workload is. Dota2 is free and a fair sized TTW community moved over to Dota2 so I'm sure the player base will have a good starting size.

I will be putting my standalone on halt (had about 3/5 of the functionality working) until I know what can and can't be done with the Dota2 editor.

Well im still alive if that metters at all

Valjavec wrote:Well im still alive if that metters at all

Well, all the dead people seem to be reviving themselves of late! xD

H3ka, if we get this Dota 2 TTW (hahahahahaha, that name xD ) throw me a Beta privilege?

I will beta test that any day just notify

H3ka why stop the standalone, it would be better if it was a game on it's own

Or you can check how the community likes it and think about the DotA 2 custom map if the standalone doesn't do well enough.

You can even put in some benefits and something cool to buy stuff on a TTW store to get some extra money in and get servers up if that's the case

Well i dont play dota2 and i think i never will, i never played dota, latelly iv been playing league of legends a lot, but im still interested in ttw

We will get you on the right path young grasshopper

I would love to play TTW again I miss it so much :<

Eh, LoL isn't that bad. The community is cancerous as f*** though :/Literally asked one question, "what's the meta on this hero", as you do when you start playing a new hero in a moba, and got flamed out by a bunch of angry 12 year olds who had a point to prove.

Anyways, back on to topic. I think H3ka doesn't want to invest a shit load of his time and energy into creating a standalone engine if he could simply just piggyback on the Steam engine. Also, the graphics... Hahahahaha! f***, creating all the graphics and shit would be a damned nightmare, I can imagine. Then also sound and all those wonderful things. It's just easier and less demanding of time to piggyback on another platform.

ALTHOUGH, knowing H3ka, a standaone will be developed (at some point) anyways because he's a stubborn bastard who enjoys making games. <3

Well as long as it is done

How the f*** did I remember my password for this page. I really do miss TTW and I would play it on any platform really. Perhaps I should get my old W3 up and running again.

shout out to Clos3d for finding me on doto, Wikoloz and panda0928 for being a nigger

Algernon wrote:shout out to Clos3d for finding me on doto, Wikoloz and panda0928 for being a nigger

I laughed so damn hard! xD

You people doubt ME?...Heresy I say!

On a serious note, I always have and (atleast for the foreseeable future) always will, tell everybody that ONE day I will get round to making a standalone TTW. Nobody wanted to make a facebook game out of it, they just thought doing it in WebGL would be cool (which I dont *necessarily* disagree with).

Yes people tried to make it in SC2, yes people want to make it in Dota 2. No I don't think either of those will work/be a good idea. Thats probably just because I have some kind of sentimental connection to WC3 being the game with custom maps and I feel like dota 2 getting custom maps would be lame and would ruin dota 2. I also don't think the whole "custom maps" thing will work all that well outside of an RTS (if for nothing else, then for the lack of all the art resources that games like wc3 have already).

I really feel that only a well-done standalone product can do TTW the justice it deserves, although I do realise that running such a project as a standalone has a whole lot of problems that are solved by making it as a custom map (e.g for dota2)

D3zmodos wrote:You people doubt ME?...Heresy I say!

On a serious note, I always have and (atleast for the foreseeable future) always will, tell everybody that ONE day I will get round to making a standalone TTW. Nobody wanted to make a facebook game out of it, they just thought doing it in WebGL would be cool (which I dont *necessarily* disagree with).

Yes people tried to make it in SC2, yes people want to make it in Dota 2. No I don't think either of those will work/be a good idea. Thats probably just because I have some kind of sentimental connection to WC3 being the game with custom maps and I feel like dota 2 getting custom maps would be lame and would ruin dota 2. I also don't think the whole "custom maps" thing will work all that well outside of an RTS (if for nothing else, then for the lack of all the art resources that games like wc3 have already).

I really feel that only a well-done standalone product can do TTW the justice it deserves, although I do realise that running such a project as a standalone has a whole lot of problems that are solved by making it as a custom map (e.g for dota2)

When will be 5.50b?

When will be 5.50b?

Don't look at me...5.50 was released without anybody even telling me. Though I'm fairly sure the answer is no?

We basically Necro'd the Forum... My belief is that TTW as a Warcraft 3 map is effectively dead. We've seen that there are attempts to design and build standalone versions and revive the community, but at the moment that community is dead and so is the game.

"<\thread>"?

I just want a standalone TTW or even any TTW again xD

WC3 is so bleh now can't do anything on our servers anymore


The local community is dead, Garena still has some players I just struggle to find them

}{odge-Podge wrote:My belief is that TTW as a Warcraft 3 map is effectively dead.

If maps are updated, it would be more popular. Imho. Version 5.50 needs some correction, but it is not present.   

FlaMeBeRg wrote:I just struggle to find them

Russia TD room (hostbot) or pm iNesquik (garena).

Nesquik wrote:

}{odge-Podge wrote:My belief is that TTW as a Warcraft 3 map is effectively dead.

If maps are updated, it would be more popular. Imho. :|Version 5.50 needs some correction, but it is not present.  

Of course, but the demand for a new map is too little to warrant the time and effort put into making the next version. We shall wait for the standalones though. H3ka has some pretty cool ideas

}{odge-Podge wrote:

Of course, but the demand for a new map is too little to warrant the time and effort put into making the next version.

What do you want, having thrown map? Earlier TTW was as popular as the Legion TD, But now legion updated and still popular, but not TTW.   Although TTW much better Legion TD.

So, yeah I'm a little late to the party. Played some killer TTW at a LAN last weekend. As one of the oldest TTW players I know I approve of the standalone idea. I used to play TTW before juggling was even really a thing, when Atrum-Amicus (who has long since disappeared from the scene) first started developing it he and I used to host games on Twilight W3 and it was like a bunfight to see who would get in before it was full... Those were the good old days... Such a pity its so dead now. Anyway, from my side thats a huge yes to the revival in ANY form. Count me in if ever it happens Peace.

As I understand, you do not want to improve TTW in WC3 , you have just an idea to include TTW in SC3 .
I have seen comments from players , as TTW dies , well if it is logically not even TTW initiators do not know what to do.
Some time ago Nesquik registered and opened a bot TTW , but after a while we lost Ghotbot unknown reasons .
After losing his Ghostbot Russoka ( mog13 ) , I have not seen 1 year and 6 luni.Acum returned and opened a bot TTW recorded . We have many plans to make TTW most popular .
We need W3MMD that supports standard Ghost bot miss information Originating in the game scenario WC3 . I know he once asked to do this, and you have not helped . We bring the gratitude that we need him very much , the very for the sake of TTW .
If we take this will assure that TTW will be better and more popular , as we will post all the information from W3MMD .
That's just the beginning , we need from you. I hope you understand that I do not want evil, but good at TTW where you are initiators .

RUNK wrote:As I understand, you do not want to improve TTW in WC3 , you have just an idea to include TTW in SC3 .
I have seen comments from players , as TTW dies , well if it is logically not even TTW initiators do not know what to do.
Some time ago Nesquik registered and opened a bot TTW , but after a while we lost Ghotbot unknown reasons .
After losing his Ghostbot Russoka ( mog13 ) , I have not seen 1 year and 6 luni.Acum returned and opened a bot TTW recorded . We have many plans to make TTW most popular .
We need W3MMD that supports standard Ghost bot miss information Originating in the game scenario WC3 . I know he once asked to do this, and you have not helped . We bring the gratitude that we need him very much , the very for the sake of TTW .
If we take this will assure that TTW will be better and more popular , as we will post all the information from W3MMD .
That's just the beginning , we need from you. I hope you understand that I do not want evil, but good at TTW where you are initiators .

Google translate? xD Can anyone decipher what he is saying?

@Gr00vY, I tried to translate it, but I failed . I understand the (extreme) gist of it, I think. BTW; Welcome to the forum

@RUNK, initially we were considering putting it on SC[2], but later it was concluded to be a bad idea.
WC3 has survived this long primarily because of DotA, since IceFrog (and company) have stopped development of DotA to focus on Dota2, WC3 will not survive for much longer.
Hence, no more effort will be put into development of TTW for WC3. No matter how many Ghostbot things you have running, TTW will not become popular on WC3.
A modern, standalone version will be developed at some point and probably released through Steam.

Hello, its 4am right now and i couldnt fall asleep and i recalled how much i liked the whole concept of ttw and also other custom maps like element td, pudge wars,etc. I too have considered creating it as a browser game from scratch. I think we should abondon the custom map concept, as convenient as it may be. It just limits you to being an addition to somebodys community! I have some coding experience mostly with c++ and assembly but i am more then open to learning javascript/webgl/html5/whathaveyou. The way I see it, lets create TTW -browser version and then create a whole editor for browser based games estabilishing a new platform! I have busy couple of months ahead but come july/august I should have some time to commit to this. It might sound bit far fetched right now but I would really like to just sit down and write some code that will result in ttw in my browser one day!pls hekaton and others contact me via email on standa.terziev@gmail.com or on skype stanislaw.terziev

Here we go again...

@RUNK Just before I stopped working on TTW I tried adding WC3MMD support. The whole map broke in an assortment of nonsensical ways (as wc3 maps do), as I say it was at a time where there wasnt as much interest in ttw development and it was the last thing before we released some version (I dont recall which) so I took it out rather.

@Everybody No ttw for wc3 isn't being developed anymore. No we aren't making ttwfor SC2. No we aren't making ttw for Dota 2. No we aren't making ttw as a browser game (at least not if I have anything to say about it or project artillery does crazy mad things). No we aren't going to make an entire custom map system like wc3 had. Yes we want to make a standalone TTW. No our reason for not doing it yet is not lack of competence. Yes it's because making games is hard. Yes its because making games takes a lot of time (which we don't really have).

H3k is the only one here who has the right idea. Trust me, we would love to have a standalone TTW ready for release right now, but we don't. I keep saying things like "I'll do it sometime(tm)" which is probably at least part of the reason why I haven't done it yet.

 Seems you did not quite catch my drift.

Bottom line... I am offering help with development, because I do have an idea of how tedious it can be to develop a whole game.
Be it in browser or as an installable game..

I like C++, and dont mind if I have to learn a new language.

I am a busy person myself but I will have some time to commit to this in a few months and would like to help with developing one of my favourite games/game concepts.

@IdontMind I did catch your drift. I just don't have much of a response for it. While your offer is noted and appreciated I unfortunately currently have nothing for you to help with (as you may have figured from my previous post).

D3zmodos wrote:@IdontMind I did catch your drift. I just don't have much of a response for it. While your offer is noted and appreciated I unfortunately currently have nothing for you to help with (as you may have figured from my previous post).

And are you wokring on it already? OR are you planning on it?

I have started a bunch of things that would be useful in an actual TTW project but no, I'm not currently working on it.

Been a while since last post, any news on the standalone, or possible Dota 2 custom game? Interested in helping with development on either. For those playing Dota 2, add me on Loxley

Which one of the 93 Loxley's is you?

Also: Hazard is alive!?

Hehe yup Im the one with the bounty hunter icon

No news really, H3k and I have gotten slightly further on the path to starting a standalone. But no we aren't making a dota2 mod for it. I'll post stuff of our progress when I have something to post

If you want to read about this post please follow this link where it was discussed already

TTW on DotA 2

Thanks, reading that clears up a lot. A seperate game now makes a lot more sense than a custom map! I hope that when/if developement starts/continues, that all goes well, and I look forward to playing TTW in the future!

And are you working on it already? OR are you planning on it?

H3ka is the only person currently working on the TTW standalone, with my input in terms of looking at what he is doing and judging whether or not he is an idiot. Otherwise, dev is on a go slow because everybody who has an interest and the ability to work on it (I want to say "officially" here) is either dead, at university (or even both in my case).

H3ka should really drag is lazy ass in here and give you guys an update as to what is REALLY going on, I think. Will let him know that this discussion is alive again.

Cant wait for that!

Im waiting for news

I spoke to H3ka again now he says the game is going pretty well but slow. "Like the game is easy enough, but the resources and the art and shit D:
Cubes can only be used so many times "

So who's good at some paint skills? (if only)

I really do ask him at least 3 times a week when I can play the damn thing but with this country's slow internet we can't really make use of uploading a 2gb file like that every time.

Will try and keep you guys more updated.

Tanks for the update, I'm glad its going well!

With the release of Dota 2 Reborn I hope it's easier for TTW to be ported. I've been waiting patiently for a long time for the port! I have some friends that are waiting too. Keep up the good work!

Oh yes. TTW on Dota2 please. I will help in any way

Just popping in to get a heads up on the progress.